tags:
- BringYourOwnServer
- selfhosting link: https://cloudron.io
Cloudron is a complete solution for running apps on your own server.
It fits into a category of [[selfhosting]] -- you provide the server either at home or in the cloud, and Cloudron helps you manage the entire server including installing and updating apps, managing DNS, running email, backups, operating system updates, user accounts, and so on.
The about page also uses the term [[private cloud]].
It's designed to run on Ubuntu LTS versions. The server interface will take care of keeping the Ubuntu operating system packages maintained.
License#
The Cloudron code itself is source-available, with a subscription license required if you want to self host more than 2 apps and have full access to all features like email. Paying for the license means the team supports you in the forums and will help troubleshoot via email.
The team creates, contributes to, and directly supports a number of open source packages. All of the app packages that are deployed on Cloudron are open source.
A number of app packages they support installing (e.g. Atlassian Confluence, Outline, Cal.com) have various non-commercial / subscription required licenses as well.1
Cost#
- Cloudron license: $15/month, paid annually
- Backup: $5USD/month
- Hosting: $11USD/month2
Total: YourOwnServer
For many services like email ( tags:
10 users = ingYourOwnServer
That does assume someone willing to do basic Cloudron admin. You don't need to use the command line, but you do need to be familiar with DNS, email, and other services with API keys and relatively technical settings.
Backup#
[[Digital Ocean]] has Spaces storage starting at $5 for up to 250GB. Cloudron lists all of the storage providers they support.
Hosting#
OVH Bare Metal Servers#
For [[CoSocial]], I wanted to keep hosting in Canada. OVH has a data center in Quebec and low cost bare metal servers.
Example OVH for $29.99CAD/month
- Intel Xeon E3-1245v2 - 4 c / 8 t - 3.4 GHz / 3.8 GHz
- Memory: 32 GB DDR3
- Storage: 2 x 480 GB SSD SATA Soft RAID
A bare metal server will be able to host many more apps than a VPS, but it's also a single point of failure: if something goes wrong with the hardware of that server, that's your problem.
Hostinger VPS#
For the difference in price, I'd recommend at least the KVM 4 with 16GB RAM. Those are USD prices. You can use my referral code for one-click Cloudron installs on a Hostinger VPS
Home Hosting#
I have an install on my [[Lenovo M900 Tiny]]. Refurbished or re-purposed hardware can be cheap, but it's also more things you have to know about, and home Internet connections can be unstable.
DNS and Domains#
You'll need at least one domain name and more likely will have at least 2, so add another s:
Cloudron will automatically manage all your DNS settings for you if you add them using a registrar that supports API access. [[deSEC]] is a great no-charge open source DNS hosting provider.
Email#
For production services of things like mailing lists, you may have trouble with deliverability of self-hosted email. You can setup SMTP relay from a number of different providers. Any provider that provides SMTP services will work.
There are some apps (like Ghost) that require Mailgun for their subscription services.
Example starter pricing: Postmark oudron](https://www.cloudron.io/?refcode=b90d0ee382ac47ba) is a complete solution for running apps on your own server.
Apps#
The Cloudron store lists all the apps they support. It uses [[Docker]] images to package apps, but then runs centrally managed services like database, redis, files, email, etc.
There are many "open source clones" of various commercial services. Listing them this way may help people find apps that are new to them or figure out what to look for to meet the needs that they have:
- Dropbox: use Nextcloud for file syncing and sharing.
- Google Email & Calendar: SoGo or Nextcloud both have webmail that can sync contacts and calendars
- Airtable, Typeform: NocoDB has both Airtable-like interfaces for spreadsheet style data storage, as well as a survey mode that could be used instead of Typeform.
- Figma: Penpot
- 1Password, LastPass: Vaultwarden is the self-hostable backend that connects with Bitwarden apps
- Zoom, Google Meet: Jitsi does video-based. Nextcloud Talk is another alternative.
- Slack, Microsoft Teams: Mattermost chat
- Help Scout, Shared Email Inbox: FreeScout
- Mailchimp: Listmonk
And there are open source apps that are themselves well-known that can be complicated to install or maintain:
- Mastodon, ActivityPub enabled micro-blogging
- Discourse, forum and community server
- Gitlab, self hosted Github alternate. Gitea, a simpler "forge" software is also available
- Peertube, ActivityPub enabled video platform. Can sync with or import from YouTube
- Wordpress, self-hosted version that is setup and maintained for you
- MediaWiki, the wiki platform that powers Wikipedia and other sites (DokuWiki, HedgeDoc, WikiJS, Confluence, BookStack, and Outline are other supported apps that are wiki variants with slightly different specializations)
Forum#
The Cloudron forum has lots of great discussions on apps, setup and use cases, as well as wishlists for new apps, and more.
Alternatives#
See [[Bring Your Own Server]] and also [[Co-op Cloud Alternatives]]
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I have a whole page on [[Open Source Licensing]]. There will definitely be people who don’t like Cloudron because it’s “not open source”. If anything, I don’t think they’re charging ENOUGH. It would be interesting to see if license holders “voted” for the software packages they want to allocate resources to. ↩︎
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This is a minimal VPS with 8GB of RAM. A larger VPS, or bare metal instance would cost more but could also support more services. ↩︎