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       title: January 3rd, 2024

     

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       date: 2024-01-03

     

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       section: journal

     

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         - January 3rd, 2024

     

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       ## Hosting capacity as a measure of agency

     
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       > you can use this map to self-evaluate your level of agency: where are you currently? what group experiences do you feel comfortable to host? what feels very doable? what would feel like a tolerable stretch? what would be overwhelming even to attempt?

     

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       via [Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels](https://x.com/richdecibels/status/1742494880625016921)
     

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       via [Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels](https://x.com/richdecibels/status/1742494880625016921)

     

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       [[Co-op Cloud]] came up in discussion at [[CoSocial]] today.

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_notes/Co-op Cloud Alternatives.md

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       [[Co-op Cloud]] has done a great job of listing out their opinions of the pros / cons of other server / app management software. 

     

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       Copy / pasted from their [FAQ](https://docs.coopcloud.tech/intro/faq/) so I can easily reference.

     

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       ## [[Cloudron]]

     

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       ### Pros

     

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       - 👍 Decent web interface for app, domain & user management.

     

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       - 👍 Large library of apps.

     

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       - 👍 Built-in SSO using LDAP, which is compatible with more apps and often has a better user interface than OAuth.

     

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       - 👍 Apps are actively maintained by the Cloudron team.

     

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       ### Cons

     

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       - 👎 Moving away from open source. The core is now proprietary software.

     

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       - 👎 Libre tier has a single app limit.

     

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       - 👎 Based on Docker images, not stacks, so multi-process apps (e.g. parsoid visual editor for Mediawiki) are a non-starter.

     

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       - 👎 Difficult to extend apps.

     

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       - 👎 Only supported on Ubuntu LTS.

     

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       - 👎 Upstream libre software communities aren't involved in packaging.

     

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       - 👎 Limited to vertical scaling.

     

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       - 👎 Tension between needs of hosting provider and non-technical user.

     

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       - 👎 LDAP introduces security problems - one vulnerable app can expose a user's password for all apps.

     

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       - 👎 Bit of a [black box](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box).

     

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       ## [[Yunohost]]

     

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       ### Pros

     

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       - 👍 Lovely web interface for app, domain & user management.

     

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       - 👍 Bigger library of apps.

     

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       - 👍 Awesome backup / deploy / restore continuous integration testing.

     

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       - 👍 Supports hosting apps in subdirectories as well as subdomains.

     

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       - 👍 Doesn't require a public-facing IP.

     

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       - 👍 Supports system-wide mutualisation of resources for apps (e.g. sharing databases by default)

     

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       - 👎 Upstream libre software communities aren't involved in packaging.

     

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       - 👎 Uninstalling apps leaves growing cruft.

     

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       - 👎 Limited to vertical scaling.

     

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       - 👎 Not intended for use by hosting providers.

_notes/Co-op Cloud.md

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       Website: <https://coopcloud.tech>

     

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       Docs: <https://docs.coopcloud.tech>

     

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       > Co-op Cloud aims to make hosting libre software apps simple for small service providers such as tech co-operatives who are looking to standardise around an open, transparent and scalable infrastructure. It uses the latest container technologies and configurations are shared into [the commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons) for the benefit of all.

     

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       Their [FAQ](https://docs.coopcloud.tech/intro/faq/) has a really good section on comparing to other solutions, which I’m reproducing at [[Co-op Cloud Alternatives]]