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···The team creates, contributes to, and directly supports a [number of open source packages](https://www.cloudron.io/opensource.html). All of the app packages that are deployed on Cloudron are open source.-A number of app packages they support installing (e.g. Atlassian Confluence, Outline, Cal.com) have various non-commercial / subscription required licenses as well.+A number of app packages they support installing (e.g. Atlassian Confluence, Outline, Cal.com) have various non-commercial / subscription required licenses as well.[^licensing]+[^licensing]: I have a whole page on [[Open Source Licensing]]. There will definitely be people who don’t like Cloudron because it’s “not open source”. If anything, I don’t think they’re charging ENOUGH. It would be interesting to see if license holders “voted” for the software packages they want to allocate resources to.···The [Cloudron store lists all the apps they support](https://www.cloudron.io/store/index.html). It uses [[Docker]] images to package apps, but then runs centrally managed services like database, redis, files, email, etc.+There are many "open source clones" of various commercial services. Listing them this way may help people find apps that are new to them or figure out what to look for to meet the needs that they have:* Google Email & Calendar: SoGo or Nextcloud both have webmail that can sync contacts and calendars···And there are open source apps that are themselves well-known that can be complicated to install or maintain:···* MediaWiki, the wiki platform that powers Wikipedia and other sites (DokuWiki, HedgeDoc, WikiJS, Confluence, BookStack, and Outline are other supported apps that are wiki variants with slightly different specializations)The [Cloudron forum](https://forum.cloudron.io/) has lots of great discussions on apps, setup and use cases, as well as wishlists for new apps, and more.